Petition for scrolls to be released, reasons and solutions included.

So yeah, hope you guys take some time to read my following post, although it might be quite boring. Pardon me for gad grammar and typos please, thanks.

Okay. As we all know, due to the release of pirates a week ago, the pirate scrolls priced at 1 mesos each were being abused by the newly advanced pirates. As such, resulting in a major lag issue. That day in game, Legendary was online, and I whispered to him about this issue. I have no idea if he got me wrong or something, but soon later Cruze ordered a ban of all scrollers, including non-pirates, which then, caused a lot of disagreements and arguments. Definitely, lag was reduced with no scrolling at all, but I seriously do not think that it should be handled this way.

My reasoning are as follows. First of all, from what I observed from my own server, one single person scrolling causes nothing to the server. But however, when I tried sending 200 scroll packs to my server via KiPE, it basically fucked the server upside down. My argument is, the lag is not caused by 1 scroller. So therefore here is the solution to this. Scrolling should be allowed, but with strict control. As long as the admin and GMs have control to scrolling, there should not be much problem. For example, one suggestion is to have the GMs to sell the scrolls, such that when too much scrolls are being sold, they can stop selling them for a while, and continue later on. But by doing this will result in GMs being spammed by people who wanted to buy scrolls, which I don’t think is a good idea. As an alternative suggestion by Chaotic, we can drastically increase the prices of scrolls, making normal scrolls 500m, GM scrolls 2b, and white scrolls 500m as well. the scrolls, however, can be give out as event prizes by the GMs. By doing so, there will not be much scrolling taking place.

There is another problem which I have found out. As we all know, pirates cannot use the skill maxer currently, as they will bug the pirate and get their level stuck. But HOWEVER, not a lot of players will bother to read the notice on the top of the screen, and go ahead to ask where is the skill maxer. And I don’t know why, whoever who answers will just say ‘Mr Kim’ and walk away. I believe all existing players should at least know that Mr Kim will bug pirates, but will it take very much time to just add an extra sentence saying ‘if you’re a pirate, don’t use him’? if everyone can do so, none of the pirates will get stuck. Getting stuck is not the main issue yet. Upon getting stuck, the first thing they do is to go to the fm, double click on mr oh, find megaphones and rocks section, go inside and buy a smega. Next thing you see is some random name people with a message ‘gms my exp is stuck at 99.98% can you level me up pls’ and after some kind people whispered him/her that this problem, they just simply log off and remake a new character, and DON’T EVEN BOTHER to delete their stuck character. Therefore my solution to this is to add one more page to sera’s chatbox at the maple island training camp entrance map, the place where players spawn at. For example, sera will say ‘please bear in mind that mr kim is bugged for pirates’ and etc, stating the bugs and problems the server have at the moment, and require players to press agree or something. By doing so we can make sure that all new players will know what should not be don’t and what can’t be done etc.

Thirdly, I STRONGLY think that a manual log out script should be added to the webbite. There are only a few GMs that can restart the server, so if they are not online, stuck players can only wait if the login without password trick do not work. If such scripts were added in the website, players can manually unstuck their account, and will also help to reduce the lag. Ever felt the lag a few days back when more than 50% of the ‘accounts online’ are actually stuck accounts? By adding this script, this problem can be TOTALLY solved. So therefore I think this script should seriously be added.

Alright, that’s all I have to say now, credits go to ChaoticFury for giving me some suggestions. Pardon me for bad grammar.

Great petition, HOWEVER that scroll machine will not work out as the map will get flooded make all scrolls 500mil and GMs 2 bil and chaos's and whites 500mil. that is what I would do OR have us GMs give them as event prizes..? also, I will sign the petition with these edits.

The poll is very very confusing in terms of which option is which side you're taking. I go with what Chaotic said. >_>

TaChiKaZe wrote:The poll is very very confusing in terms of which option is which side you're taking. I go with what Chaotic said. >_>

lol that was just a random stupid poll. i think i'll remove it.

I do agree with it's just not one scroller that laggs up the whole server but if it is repeated it'll lag. I think all that we need is valhalla to update it's v.62 fork with the fixes and issues it currently has(i heard summer runs on it). And yes players are too lazy to read the yellow scrolling message <3. Lol that is all i have to say for now.

OR everyone could just stop being such noobs and wait untill scrolling of any kind does not cause lag

i am just trying to solve the problem starfox, i myself do not need scrolls at all. i had all my items scrolled before it was banned. so yeah, its up to your interpretation. its just that i have seen a lot of problems in game, and what im doing is posting a possible solution to it. i have totally no idea how many more arguments will arise in this 1 week.

DahN00b wrote:i am just trying to solve the problem starfox, i myself do not need scrolls at all. i had all my items scrolled before it was banned. so yeah, its up to your interpretation. its just that i have seen a lot of problems in game, and what im doing is posting a possible solution to it. i have totally no idea how many more arguments will arise in this 1 week.

Lol sorry, didnt read what DeathStar had written when i posted that earlier, he pretty much said the same thing as me but more intelligently. I realize you are trying to solve the problem, but its still a lot easier just to hold off until Valhalla is ready

I agree with about everything that you just said, I just DON'T agree on the scrolling matter. I first joined this server because it had 1 meso shops, and I found that to be awesome. I mean, to be able to deal the godly damage that perfect scrolled items proportionate to you... That was just great. Then the scrolls went up a little, yet, since you can make money quite fast, paying 100m for a GM scroll wouldn't be much of a deal. But now you're talking about raising normal scrolls to 500m each? That's just ridiculous. 500m might not take much time for a 10 times reborned BowMaster to farm, but talk about lower level people. Do you know why the server didn't lag much before? We had every scroll for 1 meso, and people would just scroll that equipment once, and they wouldn't go mass scrolling like shit. Making scrolls more expensive is not the solution, yes, I thought that myself as well, but if you take it into thought, you'll see that making scrolls cheaper is more of a solution than it is making them more expensive.

Sicarii wrote:I agree with about everything that you just said, I just DON'T agree on the scrolling matter. I first joined this server because it had 1 meso shops, and I found that to be awesome. I mean, to be able to deal the godly damage that perfect scrolled items proportionate to you... That was just great. Then the scrolls went up a little, yet, since you can make money quite fast, paying 100m for a GM scroll wouldn't be much of a deal. But now you're talking about raising normal scrolls to 500m each? That's just ridiculous. 500m might not take much time for a 10 times reborned BowMaster to farm, but talk about lower level people. Do you know why the server didn't lag much before? We had every scroll for 1 meso, and people would just scroll that equipment once, and they wouldn't go mass scrolling like shit. Making scrolls more expensive is not the solution, yes, I thought that myself as well, but if you take it into thought, you'll see that making scrolls cheaper is more of a solution than it is making them more expensive.

Good point, I'm really pissed and hotheaded so I wont right an argument as it will become a flame

Can you organize that? I read it, but I lose your point quite often.
I'd very much like to hear what your views are.

Sicarii wrote:I agree with about everything that you just said, I just DON'T agree on the scrolling matter. I first joined this server because it had 1 meso shops, and I found that to be awesome. I mean, to be able to deal the godly damage that perfect scrolled items proportionate to you... That was just great. Then the scrolls went up a little, yet, since you can make money quite fast, paying 100m for a GM scroll wouldn't be much of a deal. But now you're talking about raising normal scrolls to 500m each? That's just ridiculous. 500m might not take much time for a 10 times reborned BowMaster to farm, but talk about lower level people. Do you know why the server didn't lag much before? We had every scroll for 1 meso, and people would just scroll that equipment once, and they wouldn't go mass scrolling like shit. Making scrolls more expensive is not the solution, yes, I thought that myself as well, but if you take it into thought, you'll see that making scrolls cheaper is more of a solution than it is making them more expensive.

my point in doing so is to control the amount of scrolls. since even normal scrolls cost 500m, do you think people can afford to spam? if they don't spam, where do the lag come from? if they are 1 mesos each like what you wish for, it will only cost more lag because even me myself will buy a crap load of them and start spamming. they will only lag up the server even more. it will be the same situation as the 1 meso pirate scroll. if thats what you hope for, i have nothing to say.

Sicarii wrote:I agree with about everything that you just said, I just DON'T agree on the scrolling matter. I first joined this server because it had 1 meso shops, and I found that to be awesome. I mean, to be able to deal the godly damage that perfect scrolled items proportionate to you... That was just great. Then the scrolls went up a little, yet, since you can make money quite fast, paying 100m for a GM scroll wouldn't be much of a deal. But now you're talking about raising normal scrolls to 500m each? That's just ridiculous. 500m might not take much time for a 10 times reborned BowMaster to farm, but talk about lower level people. Do you know why the server didn't lag much before? We had every scroll for 1 meso, and people would just scroll that equipment once, and they wouldn't go mass scrolling like shit. Making scrolls more expensive is not the solution, yes, I thought that myself as well, but if you take it into thought, you'll see that making scrolls cheaper is more of a solution than it is making them more expensive.

Explain. Don't give a really pointless paragraph with an example of YOU trying to farm for money. Also, after you're done scrolling all your items, what do you do after? Train right? Now, when you're training and killing a boss, a lot of people decide to buy these 1 meso scrolls and they all scroll until they have perfect items. You lag, you die, you blame scrolling. Thanks for thinking ahead genius.

DahN00b wrote:

Sicarii wrote:I agree with about everything that you just said, I just DON'T agree on the scrolling matter. I first joined this server because it had 1 meso shops, and I found that to be awesome. I mean, to be able to deal the godly damage that perfect scrolled items proportionate to you... That was just great. Then the scrolls went up a little, yet, since you can make money quite fast, paying 100m for a GM scroll wouldn't be much of a deal. But now you're talking about raising normal scrolls to 500m each? That's just ridiculous. 500m might not take much time for a 10 times reborned BowMaster to farm, but talk about lower level people. Do you know why the server didn't lag much before? We had every scroll for 1 meso, and people would just scroll that equipment once, and they wouldn't go mass scrolling like shit. Making scrolls more expensive is not the solution, yes, I thought that myself as well, but if you take it into thought, you'll see that making scrolls cheaper is more of a solution than it is making them more expensive.

my point in doing so is to control the amount of scrolls. since even normal scrolls cost 500m, do you think people can afford to spam? if they don't spam, where do the lag come from? if they are 1 mesos each like what you wish for, it will only cost more lag because even me myself will buy a crap load of them and start spamming. they will only lag up the server even more. it will be the same situation as the 1 meso pirate scroll. if thats what you hope for, i have nothing to say.

People spammed the Pirate Scrolls because White Scrolls costed 5m. Well, buying 100 White Scrolls, which is what it takes in average to make 7 10%s work, would cost 500m. Most people don't have 500m to spend like that, so they just mass scroll. If White Scrolls were at 1 meso each, people would just scroll one piece of equipment and just leave it there. No lag would be caused.

EDIT: Tachikaze, I think that having scrolls for 1 meso is WAY BETTER than having scrolls for fucking 500m. Anyways, you should know what you want, genius. I don't play SummerStory anymore. Got better stuff to do.

hey look, when white scrolls are 1 mesos, as you say, it takes 100 scrolls to finish an equip. so look now. when a new player starts, from hat,overall,glove,shoes,weapon,earring,face acc,eye acc,shield,necklace. thats 10 equips. which means, 1000 scrolls. thats only 1 player mind you, just 1 player is enough to lag up the server to a point where you remain stuck for 10min. do you really want that?

Or, my suggestion. You could have like a 10-30 minute window for everyone to scroll at that time, once the window is over, people who scroll after the window will be banned? But to prevent people running off with scrolls and scrolling elsewhere, make Ch1 FM the scrolling place.

liquidfear wrote:Or, my suggestion. You could have like a 10-30 minute window for everyone to scroll at that time, once the window is over, people who scroll after the window will be banned? But to prevent people running off with scrolls and scrolling elsewhere, make Ch1 FM the scrolling place.

and let the server crash 6542318657345 times during that 10-30min? that's a hell no option. the server sure crash during that massive scrolling time.

off topic:liquidfear you're so gonna be dead when server gets up.