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    Post  Renton Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:49 am

    I have made many forums, for people, and I have used many different hosts. The one that I hate the most is, forummotion.

    I think that we should make the forum elsewhere. A nice host would be, InvisionFree. They are one of my favorite hosts. They look really nice, and you can change a lot of things. forummotion, looks terrible. You can't see the different categories or anything.

    Another idea, is to become a server affiliate. I would like to become a server affiliate with, ESU (Electronic Sports United). They are a great forum, they are new, but you will get your own section, and you can get a few more members.

    I hope we change.
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    Post  [Gm]Winter Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:54 am

    Why do you want to change why do people always have to change.Im satisfied with the how the forum looks and i dont care what the forum looks like.The only thing that matters is the people and chatting.But that is simply my opinion.
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    Post  Renton Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:55 am

    Well, I just like things to be neat, and for people to be able to find things easily.
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    Post  [Gm]Winter Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:57 am

    How is it hard to find things here Question
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    Post  sinh1990 Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:57 am

    agreed with winter. Picture around the word mean nothing but the word itself. even though word have no meaning but the meaning given to the word. So Looking nice can attract but it won't do much, because what we say it's what that matter more then what it look like.
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    Post  robbyam Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:58 am

    i think the forums we have are good. why fix whats not broken?
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    Post  sinh1990 Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:00 am

    well spoken =D "why fix something that's not broken" i like that =D. Because fixing something that's still working can lead to not working and downtime =D. Approved =D
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    Post  [Gm]Winter Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:03 am

    And if we made a new forum wouldnt we lose a lot of peolple too.I like how i've set up my stuff in this forum and i like my post count lol but i really dont think we need to change everyone seems to be doing fine how it is.
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    Post  sinh1990 Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:06 am

    Yaa... if it get bad, then maybe we'll change. but it's looking fantastic~! so let's just keep the fantastic up and let the new idea fall... For now!
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    Post  PaladinSky Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:11 am

    im against these evil plans rawr Razz

    Nah, i think it's better if it stays this way. cat
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    Post  TaChiKaZe Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:15 am

    Rather than making a new forum, I think just organizing this one a bit would be better. Making a new forum might just kill the forum instead. =/
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    Post  ChaoticFury Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:18 am

    I agree too, I would like too see a template of what you can do though I mean all the important people would migrate because they would know, so it would be good , lose all teh noobs =3 but i wanna see what you can do renton
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    Post  Renton Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:23 pm

    Go to http://www.electronicsportsunited.com the owner had me put all of the forums together and everything.
    That forum is a paid for one. Here is an example of a free one.

    http://z13.invisionfree.com/veteranms/index.php?act=idx
    I edited all of the pictures and everything. We were going to put a lot more things into the forum but the owner of the server closed down, because no one would donate. I was the owner of this forum but I made it for VeteranMS.
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    Post  ChaoticFury Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:32 pm

    Lol i prefer this set up
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    Post  deco34 Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:37 pm

    Renton how do i make a FREE forum? Sad
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    Post  Zanial Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:38 pm

    You haven't made much of a case for yourself Renton, why exactly can't you work with this setup, where would be better, what can you do to overcome the worries, etc. At this point I'm just assuming that you're not really that good at any of this and want to go somewhere else to cover your own inability.
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    Post  Renton Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:43 am

    Zanial wrote:You haven't made much of a case for yourself Renton, why exactly can't you work with this setup, where would be better, what can you do to overcome the worries, etc. At this point I'm just assuming that you're not really that good at any of this and want to go somewhere else to cover your own inability.

    Do you want me to give you the link to every single forum I've made? If you look at them, I went in and remade almost everything on both of those forums. I also made a nulled vbulletin for a server, but some guy got really mad at us and so they reported us multiple time, getting the account banned.

    The ESU forum looked completely different almost. The owner wanted it to look different, and so I started changing it for him. I moved things, I added things. I made it look a lot better.

    You are able to change anything you want in a paid for forum, but in a free forum you don't get to change almost anything. There are a few free forums that you can change around a lot more than other, and there are some that you can upload your own things, but this forum you can't. forummotion sucks. If I was trying to hide my inability to make a forum, than why would I be asking to change to any other forum?

    I've already added more categories, and forums. You can't see the different categories, which is basically my only problem. I have also put in that chatbox, and I will be trying to implement an HTML page for the home page.
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    Post  Zanial Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:56 am

    saying 'this sucks, let's go somewhere else' is one of the default ways people try to look smart, especially when they don't justify it (and frankly nether of the ones you did link were impressive). I don't have any experience with forumotion so it was just as easy for me to think you were pulling it out your ass as they were actually doing anything shitty, but I've dealt with more than a few such service providers and don't doubt you one bit, now that you've justified it.

    Forums are typically low traffic as far as servers go; high for site servers but still pretty low on the pole, if it's built right; so why don't we just host our own? We've already got the maple machine, wouldn't take a lot to smush apache onto it, or wouldn't cost a lot to get another small server for the forum. With the second one we'd also have a convenient spot to host other stuff, an RSS feed and an IRC server. Plus there's the chance you'd be able to load in a backup of this server so we don't loose anything, or much

    No disrespect man, but as the great Yahtzee has said, it's best to assume everything on the internet is shit until it proves otherwise.
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    Post  ChaoticFury Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:57 am

    As someone who actually respects what renton has done here, I'm agreeing with him and I see your point. but as Renton is our forum guy please be a bit easier on him, as true as that is it was rather harsh. he has done a lot of things here if he hadn't this server would have just died no would have cared.
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    Post  Zanial Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:08 am

    Sorry then, I do tend to be harsh, but that's just from so many years of dealing with the kind of people that Renton clearly is not. I lighten up when I get used to a place.
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    Post  ibleach Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:19 am

    Its all about what's inside the forum that really counts Wink
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    Post  ChaoticFury Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:32 am

    It's okay. =]
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    Post  Renton Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:25 am

    I never said that anything was impressive. The thing is, is that most people can't do things like that, not even close to that. I'm not trying to look like someone who is the best forum designer out there, I'm just an experienced person. I know how to make it look nicer "better". I don't say things suck because I can't work them, I challenge them, and learn how to do it.

    One thing that a lot of people can't do but wish they could do is; make a picture background, and have it stay in one place. For example, the background picture in ESU, it just stays there, even when you scroll up and down, the picture doesn't move.
    Here is the code to prove I know it, and for anyone that wants to know:

    <html>
    <title>blah blah blah</title>
    <body>

    <style type="text/css">

    body {
    background-color:#ffffff;
    margin-top: 0px;
    margin-bottom: 5px;
    background-image: url(https://2img.net/h/i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo11/renton823/2-1.jpg);
    background-attachment: fixed;
    }
    #main {
    position: absolute;
    margin-top: 3px;
    margin-left: 25px;
    visibility: visible;
    }
    #clan {
    position: absolute;
    margin-top: 3px;
    margin-left: 25px;
    visibility: hidden;
    }
    #user {
    position: absolute;
    margin-top: 3px;
    margin-left: 25px;
    visibility: hidden;
    }
    #misc {
    position: absolute;
    margin-top: 3px;
    margin-left: 25px;
    visibility: hidden;
    }
    -->
    </style>

    <table border="0" height="595" width="1000" background="https://2img.net/h/i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk225/iChris_/background.gif" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
    <tr>
    <td valign="top">
    </td>
    </table>

    </body>
    </html>

    I just took two images, and added them together.

    I am not an amazing designer, but most people can't even do that.
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    Post  TaChiKaZe Sat Dec 20, 2008 4:59 am

    I thought this was the suggestions panel, not the burning section? Just go complain there if you have problems about someone or just keep it to yourself. Whatever you say about someone is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
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    Post  Renton Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:06 am

    TaChiKaZe wrote:I thought this was the suggestions panel, not the burning section? Just go complain there if you have problems about someone or just keep it to yourself. Whatever you say about someone is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

    Who are you talking to? Zanial, ChaoticFury, or me?

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